>From owner-trad-l@listserv.vt.edu Mon Nov 4 09:17:06 1996 Received: from ipe.cc.vt.edu (ipe.cc.vt.edu [128.173.4.8]) by ipe.cc.vt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA42685; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:17:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.VT.EDU by LISTSERV.VT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 1171839 for TRAD-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:17:03 -0500 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by ipe.cc.vt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA31161 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:17:02 -0500 Received: from [128.173.187.16] (dovegal.biol.vt.edu [128.173.187.16]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA06062 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:17:01 -0500 X-Sender: happy@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:17:01 -0500 Reply-To: "Rachel Hash (by way of happy@vt.edu Anne McNabb)" Sender: trad-l Discussion List From: "Rachel Hash (by way of happy@vt.edu Anne McNabb)" Subject: Re: comments on minutes To: Multiple recipients of list TRAD-L Anne- These are the Minutes from the Meeting of 10/24/96. Ed has already checked them over and asked me to send them to everyone on the TRAD list. Unfortunately, I do not know who all that includes. Would you mind sending this out over email for me, and sending me a list of everyone who is on the committee. Thanks, Rachel > >Here are the Minutes of the Meeting from 10/24/96 > >-The Provost will be conducting meetings in dormitories to examine student >life and each of us will be taking a turn in following her around and asking >some questions. Terri will get her schedule from her office and will post it. > >-We must ensure, thanks to the Provost's urging, that we document all our >stats with multiple sources. > >-Most other committees are ahead of us and we need to come up with a long >meeting time. For that purpose, we have sceduled one for November 12 from >8am-11am in 419 Newman. > >-In regards to the undergraduate survey, the graduate survey is a great >foundation and could just be altered - i.e. taking out the "graduate" - for >the time being. We all need to come up with two questions to add to the >survey and send them to Cathy at ctg@vt.edu, as she will be compiling all >the information. > >-The intent of the survey needs to be defined according to Anne. For us, Ed >believes it to be a way for us to establish a baseline data of students >and their knowledge. > >-Anne believes the survey will be more productive if we have 4 Big, Overall >questions we want answered and then form the rest of the questions out of >these four. > >-Ed talked about a couple of problems and the way we could solve them: >1.Plethera of paper > -Web page established at http://fox.cs.vt.edu/trad/ > -HEIR are reports that have been written prior to our self-study and may > be useful for background information. > -If you have any suggestions about things that could be added to the page, > let Ed know. >2.Handout about "Questions and Related Recommendations" > -The middle part is simply questions that appear valuable > -Question 1 is subtle and contains its own recommendation that we need to >attract residential students who are female, from other nations, etc.. >We need to watch out for normative questions such as this, because they >presume a direction we have not yet agreed to take. > -A danger we need to be careful of is viewing our Self Study Topic too >narrowly so that we ignore the bigger picture of educating. > -Barbara voiced some frustration as she sees us getting to a point we want >to focus on and then backing off and becoming more general. We are >looking at one aspect of the University and are stuyding it. We need to >know where people are, find out where the holes are in technology, and >then become more broad > -Tim Luke made the point that technology is to enhance instruction, not to >replace it. > -Ed said that students have many different experiences - service, >technology, etc. And these experiences may be aided by computers or >faculty who use technology. Technology is one of the components of >learning, but not THE only component. >-Anne said that the Introductory chapter is not finished yet, but she will >be working hard on it. That will provide us all with a bigger picture. > >-Terri made the comment that the most fundamental issue is - How do we >provide the most powerful education for students? There is a huge amount of >history for applying technology to education, and not all of it good. Too >often we throw out the baby with the bath water. The program instruction >works but the technology tended to bore people. Today, students don't even >know who B.F. Skinner is. So, Terri will provide an outline of some of this >history with the help of some other "ghost" writers. > >-Anne saids that the question of How education looks from the students >viewpoint needs to be addressed. > >-Ed said that we are essentially dealing with a three-legged stool. >1. Computer Technology and what it is good for >2. Student Learning Styles >3. Teaching Styles > How they fit together is very valuable. How does computer technology fit >how people learn and how people teach? The virtual lab is great for some, >and not for others. > How can technology be used to promote rich tasks of interaction while >bringing the world to the classroom? > > > > >Professor Edward A. Fox, Ph.D. >Department of Computer Science >660 McBryde Hall >Virginia Tech >Blacksburg, VA 24061-0106 > > >