Date: Fri 29 Apr 1988 20:31-PDT From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws Reply-To: AIList@KL.SRI.COM Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA 94025 Phone: (415) 859-6467 Subject: AIList V6 #84 - Queries To: AIList@KL.SRI.COM Status: R AIList Digest Saturday, 30 Apr 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 84 Today's Topics: Queries - Design Methods to Develop Rule-Based Expert Systems & Simulation & Bacon & Decision Theory & Designing for Diagnosis & Lisp Machines Mailing List & Construction Industry & Causal Models and Diagnosis & CMU Sidewalk Rover & Software Engineering & AI Courses & ES for Graphic Design & Chinese Character Recognition ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Apr 88 13:52 +0100 From: fred moerman Subject: Design Methods to Develop Rule-Based Expert Systems I try to develop a few simple examples to illustrate the use of expert-systems to our students. The point is that in contrary to programming and system design, I lack general purpose tools and methodes to design my rulebase. I'm not necessarily looking for theory, I want a usefull, practical methode that both me and our students can use at an early stage in the development of a rulebased expertsystem. Is there someone out there that can help me ? Thanks, Fred Moerman f_moerman%avh.unit.uninett@tor.nta.no ------------------- :-) ================== ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 88 10:33:00 CST From: "Perry Alexander" Reply-to: "Perry Alexander" Subject: Looking for simulation papers... Can anyone give me any pointers towards papers in the area of using expert systems in simulation? I am specifically looking for ideas concerning using an expert system to manage data and choose simulation techniques for a given system, although any papers concerning the use of expert systems (for that matter, AI in general) in simulation would be helpful. Thanks, Perry =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Perry Alexander | ARPANET : alexander@space-tech.arpa The University of Kansas | CSNET : alexander%coeds@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Center for Research/TISL | 2291 Irving Hill Dr. | H A I K U Lawrence, KS. 66045 | 913-864-7753 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 88 09:07:52 EST From: Kevin Barnhill Subject: Re: In search of Bacon I am searching for a source of the Bacon programs (.1 - .7) by Langley and Simon. We would like to run Bacon against large amounts of imperical data that we now have. Thank you in advance. Kevin Barnhill University of Central Florida Barnhill%UCF1VM.bitnet@wiscvm.arpa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1988 12:28-EDT From: Oren.Etzioni@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU Subject: Decision Theory in AI. I would be grateful for references on the use of ideas from decision theory in AI theories/programs. oren (ETZI@CS.CMU.EDU) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 88 15:03:53 edt From: nancy@grasp.cis.upenn.edu (Nancy Orlando) Subject: Designing for diagnosis I'm aware of some very good work done lately in diagnosis of physical systems. I wonder tho', has anything been done in *designing* systems to be diagnosed/monitored by intelligent systems? Or is this a problem that's been solved by engineers long ago? Nancy Sliwa nesliwa%nasamail@ames.arpa ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 88 20:44:14 GMT From: mendozag@ee.ecn.purdue.edu (Grado) Subject: Lisp Machines Mailing List Are there any mailing lists concerned with the Symbolics Lisp Machines? I remember I read about one in the Arpanet some time ago. Thanks in advance, Victor M. Mendoza-Grado School of EE, Box 62 Purdue University W. Lafayette, IN 47907 mendozag@ecn.purdue.edu [The Symbolics Users Group is SLUG@R20.UTEXAS.EDU. -- KIL] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 88 11:25:04 GMT From: mcvax!tnosel!hin@uunet.uu.net (Hin Oey) Subject: construction industry L.S. I am wondering if there is enough interest in a mailing list concerning applications and research programs directed towards AI and Expert Systems for the Building/Construction industry. And combined with above or more general for applications concerning law, codes of practice and regulations. If you are interested, please email. Regards, Hin Oey (hin@tnosel) Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 88 10:26-0800 From: LRMC5128%BCIT.BITNET@CORNELLC.CCS.CORNELL.EDU Subject: Causal Models and Diagnosis To: AILIST00--$STRIPE. ailist/ From: Craig Larman Subject: Causal Models and Diagnosis This is my first note - hope it gets through OK. The IntelliCorp (KEE) folks talk enthusiastically about "model based reasoning". They describe this as building a "causal model" of a system (e.g. a gas engine, a liver) and then extending it for various needs (simulation, diagnosis, training). As a programmer, I am interested in programming/technical answers or programming references to these questions: 1. I think of a software "causal model" as defining relationships between components and their dependant inputs/outputs. Is this it? What programming hints or references can folks suggest that will help me learn to build such models? SMALLTALK, LISP, or PROLOG are the preferred languages. 2. Assume I've built a causal model, HOW to build a DIAGNOSIS system from it? I can see simulation follows naturally, but how diagnosis? e-mail address: LRMC5128@BCIT on the NetNorth network (the Canadian arm of BitNet). Virtually, Craig Larman, 432-8629 MIS/Development Centre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 88 19:39:38 PDT From: John B. Nagle Subject: Need info on new CMU sidewalk rover I hear that CMU has a new autonomous vehicle, a sidewalk rover like the Terregator, but improved. Who is doing the work, and are there any papers yet? John Nagle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 88 09:06:01 EDT From: CMSBE1%EOVUOV11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: S.E. VS. K.E.: bad focussed title, I think... Date: 28 April 1988, 09:02:38 EDT From: Juan Francisco Suarez Vicente (KIKO) CMSBE1 at EOVUOV11 To: AILIST at SRI Hello !!! I've received few answers about "Software Eng. VS. Knowledge Eng.", and I'm agree with you. The problem I'd submitted to AILIST was because a few months ago was presented in Spain a Conference with this title, and my opinion was (and still follows being ) against this viewpoint. Spain is an absolute beginner country in AI and K.E. subjects and, how I suposse ocurred in other countries,some people tried to demonstrate that AI techniques and K.E. techniques are "pure invention" and they preferred attack AI than auto-critize their own methods. My personal opinion: I'm agree with K.E. methodologies, and I'd like give "good performance" reasons to its detractors, to demonstrate them that Knowledge Engineering is not a "pure invention"...it's real and very useful !!!! And also I think that K.E. and Soft. Eng. can survive in a perfect symbiosis.Cause of this,"VERSUS" isn't an appropiate word to relate them. There are some conectives more suitables: WITH, AND, etc... Do you think the same? Kiko (CMSBE1@EOVUOV11) SPAIN P.S.: Ahh...thank you too for answers about O-O techniques... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 88 19:09:25 HOE From: Esteban Vegas Lozano Subject: Information of courses I would acknowledge to receive someone information (course program, place, admission date, duration, financial aid, ......) relating a cours in general o summer courses in special, about of the following subjets: - Artificial Intelligence & Biology. - Cybernetics & Biology. - Computers & Biology. All message or mail about this note should be sent to for electronic mail. My address is: Esteban Vegas Lozano Centre d'Informatica de l'Universitat de Barcelona Diagonal 645. 08028-Barcelona, Spain. Thanks for the help. Esteban ------------------------------ Date: 29 Apr 88 02:52:59 GMT From: sunybcs!dmark@boulder.colorado.edu (David Mark) Subject: Re: expert systems for graphic design? In article <1027@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert\ Cockton) writes: (in response to my earlier posting) (several useful references deleted) >These measures covered are useful, but very crude. Graphic designers >are not ones for writing things down, nor can I see them rushing to >have their knowledge elicited by production rule hackers. It is far >more efficient to find a NUMBER of graphic designers locally and ask >them to evaluate your display layouts. Then use your judgement to >decide on which advice to take. It is my opinion that the content and components of maps in a geographic information systems (GIS) application vary so much that we cannot have "our layouts" to be evaluated by expert designers. Does anyone know of work which confirms or contradicts this, or knowledge of a graphics domain as complicated and variable as map production that has been 'solved' in a design sense? David M. Mark, Professor of Geography dmark@joey.cs.buffalo.edu ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 88 21:45:15 GMT From: hubcap!cchang@gatech.edu (Chin Hui Chang) Subject: Re: how to recognize a chinese character In article <527@vmucnam.UUCP>, daniel@vmucnam.UUCP (Daniel Lippmann) writes: > is there anybody knowing some computer-method to analize > a chinese character to find his place in a dictionnary ? Please post answers to this. Better still, would Mr. Lippmann compile all the responses he has received via e-mail and post the collection? --Zhang Jinhui ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 88 18:14:01 GMT From: mcvax!inria!vmucnam!daniel@uunet.uu.net (Daniel Lippmann) Subject: how to recognize a chinese character is there anybody knowing some computer-method to analize a chinese character to find his place in a dictionnary ? There are at least 2 problems/ - how to input the character ? by a graphical mean, with a system of question-answer to describe it,..... -once inputed, how to analize it to find the page or set of pages where is translation can be found ? counting the number of strokes, identifying a key, using the 4 corners method,... The problem to solve is : given an unknown characer how to determine its rank in a dictionnary from its graphical aspect. daniel (post or mail to ...!seismo!mcvax!inria!vmucnam!daniel) ------------------------------ End of AIList Digest ********************