>From LAWS@KL.SRI.COM Tue Dec 15 05:13:25 1987
Date: Mon 14 Dec 1987 22:24-PST
From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws <AIList-REQUEST@SRI.COM>
Reply-To: AIList@SRI.COM
Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA  94025
Phone: (415) 859-6467
Subject: AIList V5 #283 - Smalltalk, Lisp Portability, AI Liability
To: AIList@SRI.COM
Status: RO


AIList Digest            Tuesday, 15 Dec 1987     Volume 5 : Issue 283

Today's Topics:
  Queries - Statistics on AI Programmers & KR References &
    Cognitive Science Programs,
  AI Tools - Smalltalk for the MAC & RACTER & LISP vs. PROLOG &
    Common Lisp Portability,
  Law - Expert System Liability,
  Philosophy - The Role of Biological Models in AI

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Date: 13 Dec 87 13:30:14 GMT
From: caip.rutgers.edu!anar@rutgers.edu  (Anar Shah)
Subject: Statistics on AI programmers requested

I am looking for articles/statistics on the availability of AI
programmers - the demand vs the supply. Any information on this
subject will be a great help.

Anar Shah

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Date: 11 Dec 87 11:54:08 GMT
From: mcvax!lifia!gb@uunet.UU.NET (Guilherme Bittencourt)
Reply-to: mcvax!lifia!gb@uunet.UU.NET (Guilherme Bittencourt)
Subject: References wanted


        I am very interested in recent publications concerning
Knowledge Representation tutorials or surveys, and papers
comparing different techniques of Knowledge Representation.

        If someone knows about or has published such papers, I'd be
very pleased if she/he could contact me, or send me her/his papers
and/or any pointer to such publications.

        Besides being useful for my research these papers will be
included to the second version of a bibliography on Expert and
Knowledge-Based Systems. The first version is just out as an
internal lab. report and is available (until the requests do not
oversize our supply !)

        Thank you for your help.

                                        Guilherme

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Date: 10 Dec 87 20:55:11 GMT
From: clyde!watmath!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utai!tjhorton@rutger
      s.edu  (Timothy J. Horton)
Subject: Cognitive Science programs (once and for all)

Do you have info about cognitive science programs?
ie. interdisciplinary programs based on several of
    computersci / psychology / neurosci / linguistics / even philosophy / etc

Please drop me a few lines or pointers to info.  I will summarize and post.
I have read of a Cognitive Science Society.  Do they have a published list
of programs somewhere?  If so, where?



>From what I understand, perhaps not accurately (please clarify):

MIT:
department of Brain and Cognitive Science

Brown:
department of Linguistics and Cognitive Science

Stanford:
Graduate Program in Cognitive Science
Psychology (organizing dept), Linguistics, Computer Science, Philosophy

UCSD:
interdisciplinary PhD in Cognitive Science exists
undergraduate program in Cog Sci currently offered by psychology
strengths in psychology, connectionism (though fading?), neurosci, linguistics
a real dept of Cognitive Science is in the works, perhaps for 88/89

UC Berkley:
Cognitive Science Program
focus on linguistics

Michigan:
defunct Program in Communications Sciences

Toronto:
Undergraduate Major in Cognitive Science and Artificial Intelligence

Princeton:
program of some sort?

Edinburgh:
department of Cognitive Science (formerly School of Epistemics)
focus on linguistics

Sussex:
School of Cognitive Science

--
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Dept of Computer Science          tjhorton@ai.toronto     (other Bitnet)
University of Toronto,            tjhorton@ai.toronto.cdn (EAN X.400)
Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4           {seismo,watmath}!ai.toronto.edu!tjhorton

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Date: 11 Dec 87 14:22:10 GMT
From: sunybcs!rapaport@ames.arpa  (William J. Rapaport)
Subject: Re: Cognitive Science programs (once and for all)

In article <4186@utai.UUCP> tjhorton@ai.toronto.edu (Timothy J. Horton) writes:
>Do you have info about cognitive science programs?

State University of New York at Buffalo has several active cognitive science
programs.  What follows is a slightly outdated on-line information
sheet on two of them.  The newest is the SUNY Buffalo Graduate Studies
and Research Initiative in Cognitive and Linguistic Sciences, whose
Steering Committee is currently planning the establishment of a Cog and
Ling Sci Center and running a colloquium series.  For more information,
please contact me.  In addition, let me know if you wish to be on my
on-line mailing list for colloquium announcements.

                William J. Rapaport
                Assistant Professor of Computer Science
                Co-Director, Graduate Group in Cognitive Science
                Interim Director, GSRI in Cognitive and Linguistic Sciences

Dept. of Computer Science||internet:  rapaport@cs.buffalo.edu
SUNY Buffalo             ||bitnet:    rapaport@sunybcs.bitnet
Buffalo, NY 14260        ||uucp: {ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!rapaport
(716) 636-3193, 3180     ||

  [Write to the author if you need the full message.  -- KIL]

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 87 11:45 EDT
From: TAM%MCOIARC.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: Smalltalk for the MAC

In response to Robert Stanley's mention of Smalltalk for the MAC:

  The Smalltalk version available from APDA is a very poor implementation.
  I found that it frequently overwrite the whole screen when using
  standard graphics.  Parc Place Systems has a version now for the MAC II
  (which I have recently ordered), for the MAC SE, and the MAC Plus.
  These versions are standard Smalltalk-80 (Parc Place is a division of
  Xerox Corp).
  The manual shipped with Apples Smalltalk is very bad.  You must be
  very effient with SMalltalk-80 before using it.
  Smalltalk from Apple cost $75.00.  Smalltalk-80 from Parc Place
  is $1000 for the MAC SE and Plus, and $1295.00 for the MAC II, but
  Parc Place offers a 90% educational discount making all the systems
  practically the same price.
  My opinion is get the real thing and buy Parc Place's Smalltalk.

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Date: 13 Dec 87 01:00:41 GMT
From: cbmvax!swatsun!hirai@uunet.uu.net (Eiji "A.G." Hirai)
Subject: Re: Request for RACTER


In article <8712041829.AA19308@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> ST502042@BROWNVM.BITNET
(Michael Nosal) writes:
> ...
>m on the subject, if anyone knows of other 'Eliza-like' AI programs out there,
>please let me know.

        GNU Emacs has a bery primitive Eliza-like (un-AI like) lisp program
called 'doctor'.  Also check out 'flames' too, which reponds to your
efforts at communicating with it through flames.  Very sociable. :-)

>        Michael Nosal (please respond to this account if possible)

                                                -a.g. hirai
--
Eiji "A.G." Hirai @ Swarthmore College, Swarthmore PA 19081 | Tel. 215-543-9855
UUCP:   {rutgers, ihnp4, cbosgd}!bpa!swatsun!hirai |  "All Cretans are liars."
Bitnet:       vu-vlsi!swatsun!hirai@psuvax1.bitnet |         -Epimenides
Internet:            bpa!swatsun!hirai@rutgers.edu |         of Cnossus, Crete

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Date: 14 Dec 87 17:56:27 GMT
From: umix!umich!eecs.umich.edu!dwt@uunet.UU.NET (David West)
Reply-to: umix!umich!eecs.umich.edu!dwt@uunet.UU.NET (David West)
Subject: Re: Expert System references...


In article <8712100816.AA09612@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> WURST@UCONNVM.BITNET writes:
>
>          I am a graduate student in Computer Science [...]
>                                   I plan to write the system twice,
>     once in LISP, and once in PROLOG, and then compare the relative
>     merits of each language for expert systems.
>          Can anyone suggest some references to get me started?

 Unless you are already proficient in both languages, what you are likely to
 end up comparing is your relative understanding of the two languages.  For
 this reason I think that your first reference to read should be Richard
 O'Keefe's article "Prolog and LISP Compared?" in SIGPLAN Notices, about 1984.
 This is a critique of an article by someone else in which the someone else
 fell into precisely the above-mentioned trap.
 (That title and date are approximate, but close.)

  David West                  dwt@zippy.eecs.umich.edu

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Date: 10 Dec 87 08:43:22 est
From: Walter Hamscher <hamscher@ht.ai.mit.edu>
Subject: Common Lisp lacks portability (105 lines)

It seems to me that your complaint is not about Steele & the
rest of the committee's unwillingness to overconstrain the
language in what is still a relatively unexplored area, but
rather with implementors who chose to interpret the verb
`ignore' in the sense of ``the compiler or interpreter can
pretend it aint there'' instead of ``the compiler doesn't have
to generate special code for it''.  Sort of like the difference
between (declare (ignore x)) and (ignore x), if you catch my
drift.  In any case, since you have obviously thought some
about this problem perhaps you could suggest which of the three
examples you gave were the `right' ones and what the spec should
have been said, keeping in mind the purpose of the definition
described so succinctly in the first three pages of CLtL.

Walter Hamscher

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 87 14:11:42 EST
From: "Christopher M. Maeda" <MAEDA@AI.AI.MIT.EDU>
Subject: AIList V5 #281 - Common Lisp Portability, Chess

Reply to Ritchey Ruff on type declarations:

I don't see why you are mad at Steele for saying that compilers and
interpreters can ignore declarations.  For example, if you type the
following definition,

        (defun foo (x)
          (declare (type x integer))
          ...)

and you always pass integers as arguments to foo, what difference does
it make (aside from performance) if the lisp system does full type
checking or just assumes it's an integer?

        From reading your message, I think it is the buggy SLOOP macro
that you should be flaming at.  You said you typed the folowing
definition:

        (defun tst (m n)
          (sloop for i from m to n
                 collecting i))

Why in the world would sloop declare m and n to be of type integer
when there is no such information from the programmer?  That, and the
fact that you gave tst floating point arguments when you knew they
were declared as fixnums, is what is causing your problems.

Chris Maeda

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Date: Thu 10 Dec 87 10:27:39-PST
From: George S. Cole <GCOLE@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Expert System Liability

 I have researched this area and a paper is forthcoming -- as soon as the
USC Computer/Law Journal editorial staff are ready -- on "Tort Liability for
Artificial Intelligence and Expert Systems". The trite answer is yes, there can
be a suit and EVERYBODY INVOLVED will be named -- because the plaintiff's
lawyer will realize that the law does not clearly know who is liable (including
the plaintiff).
        A short answer is to cite the Restatement of Torts, 2nd, Section 552:
"Information Negligently Supplied for the Guidance of Others:
    one who, in the course of his business, profession, or employment, or in
any other transaction in which he has a pecuniary interest, supplies false
information for the guidance of others in their business transactions, is
subject to liability for pecuniary loss caused to them by their justifiable
reliance upon the information, if he fails to exercise reasonable care or
competence in obtaining or communicating the information".

This section was cited without success in Black, Jackson and Simmons Insurance
Brokerage, Inc. v. IBM, 440 N.E. 2d 282, 109 Ill. App. 132 (1982). The phrase
"in the course of his business" was strictly construed to prevent liability
under this cause of action (there were others, including warranty) as the
court noted that the defendant had sold both hardware and software to allow
the firm to process information.  But in Independant School District No. 454,
Fairmont, Minnesota v. Statistical Tabulating Corporation, 359 F. Supp. 1095
(N.D. Ill, 1973) the court permitted a negligence action to be brought against
the third-party statistical bureau whose miscalculations had led to the
under-insurance of a school which had then burned down. The court stated:
"[O]ne may be liable to another for providing inaccurate information which
was relied upon and caused economic loss, although there was no direct
contractual relationship between the parties...The duty to do work reasonably
and in a workmanlike manner has always been imposed by law..." Factors the
court suggested to consider included (1) the existence, if any, of a guarantee
of correctness; (2) the defendant's knowledge that the plaintiff would rely
upon the information; (3) the restriction of potential liability to a small
group; (4) the absence of proof of any correction once found being delivered
to the plaintiff; (5) the undesirability of requiring an innocent party to
carry the burden of another's professional mistakes; and (6) the promotion
of cautionary techniques among the potential defendants for the protection
of all potential plaintiffs.
        Did the ES indeed make a mistake? Suppose Joe has said he plans to
invest for 15 years -- too short for real estate, too long for bonds, and
in that light the "Black Monday" might be seen as a temporary aberration.
(I.e. Joe caused the harm by selling out at the bottom rather than holding
on for the 15 years as planned.)
        Can the experts hide behind the company? Those who are professionals
(which is a legal phrase for "holders of a semi-monopoly") probably cannot be
fully shielded; the rest may have to seek indemnity from their corporation.
It will depend in part on their employment contract, or lack thereof.
        Can the knowledge engineers be found liable if their mistake led to
this? What sort of mistake? A standard programming flaw is not the same as
a design flaw. What if the mistake lies at the boundary -- who is responsible
for realizing that the computer has to have rules for assessing "market
psychology" that will quantitatively assess the subtle dynamics of what
the current "feel" for the market is? Did the domain experts learn that the
computer was going to do more than crunch numbers?

        This is both a nascent and a complex legal area. My hope is that a
number of the AI and ES companies realize the potential exposure and that the
evolution of the law can be influenced by their behavior -- and begin to
plan defensively. It is a bit more expensive initially, affecting immediate
profits; but it can provide tremendous savings both for the firm and for the
industry over the longer run.
                                George S. Cole, Esq.
                                793 Nash Av.
                                Menlo Park, CA  94025
                        GCole@Sushi.stanford.edu (until it goes away)

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Date: 10 Dec 87 02:57:50 GMT
From: ece-csc!ncrcae!gollum!rolandi@mcnc.org  (rolandi)
Subject: the role of biological models in ai


Marty!

Sorry about our previous misunderstanding.  But regarding your reply ...

> You know perfectly well that, as a technology
> matures, it stops modeling its techniques on "natural processors" and
> develops artificial substitutes that were previously unknown.  You
> don't fly by flapping wings, your car doesn't propel itself with legs,
> and your air conditioner sweats as a result of cooling, not the other
> way around.  We first learn from natural processors, and then we
> progress by inventing artificial processors.

You make a good point here but, in a way, your examples labor against the
interest of your argument.   According to some AI theorists, (see Schank,
R.C., (1984) The Cognitive Computer. Reading, Mass.: Addison-Wesley)
AI is "an investigation into human understanding through which we learn
...about the complexities of our own intelligence."  Thus, at least for
some AI researchers, the automation of intelligent behavior is secondary
to the expansion and formalization of our self-understanding.  This is
assumed to be the result of creating computational "accounts" of (typically
intellectual) behavior.  Researchers write programs which display the
performance characteristics of humans within some given domain.  The
efficacy of a program is a function of the similarity of its performance
to the human performance after which it was modeled.  Thus AI programs are
(often) created in order to "explain" the processes that they model.

Although one of your examples provides an instance of a machine that employs
principles derived from studying natural flight, (airplanes) I don't
think many people would argue that the airplane was invented in order to
"explain" flight.  Of your other examples, I do not think that the workings
of an automobile have ever been thought to provide insights into the nature
of human locomotion.  Nor do I believe that the "sweat" of an air conditioner
is in any meaningful way related to perspiration in humans.


-w.rolandi
ncrcae!gollum!rolandi
Look Boss, DisClaim! DisClaim!

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********************

>From LAWS@KL.SRI.COM Fri Dec 18 05:19:13 1987
Date: Thu 17 Dec 1987 23:53-PST
From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws <AIList-REQUEST@SRI.COM>
Reply-To: AIList@SRI.COM
Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA  94025
Phone: (415) 859-6467
Subject: AIList V5 #284 - RACTER, Mac ES Tools, KR References, CogSci
To: AIList@SRI.COM
Status: RO


AIList Digest            Friday, 18 Dec 1987      Volume 5 : Issue 284

Today's Topics:
  Query - OPS5 for Atari ST,
  Software - RACTER,
  AI Tools - Mac ES Tools,
  References - Knowledge Representation Techniques,
  Cognitive Science - Princeton & UCSD

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 12:25:13 +0100
From: mcvax!lasso!ralph@uunet.UU.NET (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: OPS5 for Atari ST

I'm looking for information concerning OPS5 on an Atari ST.  Its existence
was mentioned in Vol.4, No. 203 of AIList Digest.  Does anybody have any
more information?  Is it Public Domain?  Price?  Does it require Lisp, and if so
which one?  Where can I get it?  How does it compare to the other versions
that float around the net?  Is there any room left in the ST once OPS5 is
loaded?

Thanx in advance.

        Ralph P. Sobek

UUCP:     mcvax!inria!lasso!ralph  or  ralph@lasso.UUCP
Internet: lasso!ralph@{inria.inria.fr  or  uunet.UU.NET} or
          ralph@lasso.laas.fr
ARPA:     sobek@shadow.Berkeley.EDU     (automatic forwarding)
BITNET:   SOBEK@FRMOP11

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Date: 16 Dec 87 20:50:17 GMT
From: jbn@glacier.stanford.edu (John B. Nagle)
Reply-to: glacier!jbn@kestrel.arpa (John B. Nagle)
Subject: Re: Request for RACTER


      RACTER is available as a commercial product.  Try a computer store
with a good selection of games.

                                        John Nagle

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Date: 15 Dec 87 00:42:32 GMT
From: Robert Stanley <roberts%cognos%math.waterloo.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Reply-to: Robert Stanley
          <roberts%cognos%math.waterloo.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Re: Request for RACTER


In article <8712041829.AA19308@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
           ST502042@BROWNVM.BITNET.UUCP writes:
>Howdy!
>I am interested in locating the (in)famous 'AI' program RACTER.

There is a commercial version of Racter available for the Apple Macintosh,
published by Mindscape.  I do not have their address to hand, but they are
a major player in the Mac games market (Deja Vu, Balance of Power, etc.) and
so should be fairly easy to track down via a computer store or magazine.

Racter is in no way ai, but it can be fairly amusing.

Robert_S
--
R.A. Stanley             Cognos Incorporated     S-mail: P.O. Box 9707
Voice: (613) 738-1440 (Research: there are 2!)           3755 Riverside Drive
  FAX: (613) 738-0002    Compuserve: 76174,3024          Ottawa, Ontario
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Date: 16 Dec 87 23:04:49 GMT
From: Will Clinger <willc%tekchips.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
Reply-to: willc@tekchips.UUCP (Will Clinger)
Subject: Mac ES Tools

In article <12356608461.22.GCOLE@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>
GCOLE@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU (George S. Cole) writes:
>    The paucity of shells for the Macintosh is puzzling. There are three
>language environments which can be used to build such a shell currently on
>the market: (1) AAIS Prolog; (2) Expertelligence's ExperCommonLisp, and
>(3) Allegro Common LISP from Coral Software.

I'm curious as to why MacScheme+Toolsmith from Semantic Microsystems isn't
in this list.  (For that matter, I wonder why things like MPW C aren't in
the list, but I can at least imagine a reason for excluding them.)

William Clinger

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 87 09:22:50 EST
From: Bruce Nevin <bnevin@cch.bbn.com>
Subject: ref. comparing KR techniques

In AIList Digest 5.283 (11 Dec 87)  Guilherme Bittencourt
<mcvax!lifia!gb@uunet.UU.NET> asks for

". . . papers comparing different techniques of Knowledge Representation."

Try:

        Gregory, Dik, Philosophy and practice in knowledge
        representation.  In Joseph Zeidner (ed.), _Human Productivity
        Enhancement_, Vol. I, NY: Praeger (1986).

I assume you are familiar with the papers in the Brachman & Levesque
_Readings in KR_.

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Date: 15 Dec 87 13:48:28 GMT
From: sunybcs!rapaport@ames.arpa  (William J. Rapaport)
Subject: Re: References wanted

In article <3237@lifia.UUCP> gb@lifia.UUCP (Guilherme Bittencourt) writes:
>
>       I am very interested in recent publications concerning
>Knowledge Representation tutorials or surveys, and papers
>comparing different techniques of Knowledge Representation.

A new collection of essays, based on the ca. 1983 IEEE Computer special
issue on KR, has just been published:

G. McCalla & N. Cercone (eds.),
The Knowledge Frontier:  Essays in the Representation of Knowledge
(New York:  Springer-Verlag).

                                        William J. Rapaport
                                        Assistant Professor

Dept. of Computer Science||internet:  rapaport@cs.buffalo.edu
SUNY Buffalo             ||bitnet:    rapaport@sunybcs.bitnet
Buffalo, NY 14260        ||uucp: {ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!rapaport
(716) 636-3193, 3180     ||

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec  09:51:31 1987
From: rjb%research.att.com@RELAY.CS.NET
Subject: Reply to request for references on Knowledge Representation

In reply to article <3237@lifia.UUCP> [gb@lifia.UUCP (Guilherme Bittencourt)]:

Dear Guilherme,

Among the best survey articles there are is one by Hector Levesque in the
Annual Review of Computer Science, Vol. 1, 1986.  This is published by
Annual Reviews, Inc., of Palo Alto, California.  Hector's article is
entitled "Knowledge Representation and Reasoning."  Ray Reiter has an
article on "Nonmonotonic Reasoning," to appear in the next volume of
the same series.

You might also refer to our Readings in Knowledge Representation book
(Morgan Kaufmann, 1985); it includes a brief introduction to the
field, and a number of important articles highlighting, among other
things, different techniques of KR.

The section on KR in the AI Handbook is always a reasonable place to
start, as well.

Finally, I have just completed a brief (20-page) survey/tutorial
article for the AT&T Technical Journal, entitled "The Basics of
Knowledge Representation and Reasoning."  I can send you a copy if you
would like.

- Ron Brachman

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 14:28:10 PST
From: Marie Bienkowski <bienk@spam.istc.sri.com>
Subject: Cognitive Science Program at Princeton

CC: bjr@mind.princeton.edu tjhorton@rutgers.edu

Princeton University has an excellent Cognitive Science
program, although there is no department by that name.
They have active research programs on automated tutoring,
vocabulary acquisition, reasoning, belief revision,
connectionism (with Bellcore), computational linguistics,
cognitive anthropology, and probably more that I've missed.
The main sponsoring departments are Psychology, Philosophy
and Linguistics.
  A good person to contact is bjr@mind.princeton.edu,
who is, in real life, a professor in the Psychology Dept.
His p-mail address is:
Brian Reiser
Cognitive Science Laboratory
221 Nassau St.
Princeton, NJ  08542
                Marie Bienkowski

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 87 10:31:52 pst
From: norman%ics@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Donald A. Norman)
Subject: Cognitive Science programs (once and for all)


Yes, there is a Cognitive Science Society.  It hosts an annual
conference (the next one will be in Montreal).  It publishes the
journal "Cognitive Science."   You can find out about it by writing
the secretary treasurer:
     Kurt Vanlehn
     Department of Psychology
     Carnegie-Mellon University
     Pittsburgh, PA 15213
     vanlehn@a.psy.cmu.edu

At UCSD, we are indeed in the process of establishing a Department of
Cognitive Science.   We are now hiring, but formal classes will not
start until the Fall of 1989.  We will have both an undergraduate and
a PhD program.   We now have an Interdisciplinary PhD program:
students enter some department, X, and join the interdisciplinary
program after completing the first year requirements of X.  They then
receive a "PhD in X and Congitive Sicnefce."  We have about 20
students now and have given out about 3 PhDs.
        (One of these is now in Computer Science at Toronto: Mike Mozer)

The strengths are in the computational understanding of cognition,
with strong emphasis in psychology, AI, linguisitics, neuroscience,
philosophy, and social cognition.  PDP (connectionism) is one of the
strengths at UCSD, and the approach permeates all of the different
areas of Cognitive Science, even among those of us who do not directly
do work on weights, algorithms, or connectionist architectures: the
strength grows by the hour).

Don Norman


Donald A. Norman
Institute for Cognitive Science C-015
University of California, San Diego
La Jolla, California 92093
INTERNET: norman%ics@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu  INTERNET: danorman@ucsd.edu
BITNET:   danorman@ucsd.bitnet
ARPA:     norman@nprdc.arpa     UNIX:{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!ics!norman

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>From LAWS@KL.SRI.COM Fri Dec 18 07:15:38 1987
Date: Thu 17 Dec 1987 23:59-PST
From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws <AIList-REQUEST@SRI.COM>
Reply-To: AIList@SRI.COM
Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA  94025
Phone: (415) 859-6467
Subject: AIList V5 #285 - Probability, Simulation, DAEDALUS, Methodology
To: AIList@SRI.COM
Status: RO


AIList Digest            Friday, 18 Dec 1987      Volume 5 : Issue 285

Today's Topics:
  Query & Puzzle - Probability Bounds,
  Announcements - Simulation List & Issue of DAEDALUS on AI,
  Philosophy - The Role of Biological Models in AI

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 87 14:10:21 GMT
From: mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!tom@uunet.uu.net  (Tom Kane)
Subject: Probability Bounds from Bayes Theory: (A Problem).


I am sending this letter out to the network to ask for solutions to a
particular problem of Bayesian Inference. Below is the text of the
problem, and at the end is the mathematical statement of the information
given. Simply, I am asking the questions:

1) Can you find bounds on the final result. If so, how?
2) If not, why is it not possible to do so?
   What is missing in the specification of the problem?
3) If you get nowhere with this problem, would you be able to solve it
   if you were given the information: p(pv|t or l)=0.9?

I am interested in the problem of providing probability bounds for events
specified in a Bayesian setting when not all the necessary conditional
probabilities are provided in setting up the problem.

PROBLEM
~~~~~~~
(A problem relevant to the handling of Uncertainty in Expert Systems.)
We want to know the probability of a patient having both lung cancer and
tuberculosis based on the fact that this person has had a positive reading
in a chest X-ray. We are given the following pieces of information:

1. The probability that a person with lung cancer will have a positive
   chest X-ray is 0.9.

2. The probability that a person with tuberculosis will have a positive
   chest X-ray is 0.95.

3. The probability that a person with neither lung cancer nor tuberculosis
   will have a positive chest X-ray is 0.07.

4. In the town of interest, 4 percent of the population have lung cancer,
   and three percent have tuberculosis.

EVENTS
~~~~~~
l = lung cancer;       t = tuberculosis;           pv = positive chest X-ray

SETUP
~~~~~
In the statement of the problem below:-

~l means 'not l'.
~l, ~t means 'not l and not t'.
t or l means 't or l'
where 'not', 'and' , and 'or' are logical operators.
so that: p(~l, ~t) means probability( not l and not t).
Also,
p(pv|l) means the conditional probability of event pv, given event l.
PRIORS
~~~~~~
p(l) = 0.04;           p(t) = 0.03;                p(~l, ~t) = 0.95
CONDITIONALS
~~~~~~~~~~~~
p(pv|l) = 0.9;         p(pv|t) = 0.95;             p(pv| ~t,~l) = 0.07

(You are not given p(pv| t or l) )
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please mail all solutions or comments to me, and I will let interested parties
know what the results are.
(I will specially treasure attempts which don't use independence assumptions.)
Thanks in advance to anyone who will spend time on this problem...
Regards,
Tom Kane.

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 87 09:30:06 EST
From: Paul Fishwick <fishwick@fish.cis.ufl.edu>
Subject: New Simulation List


                ------------------------------------------
                ****** NOTICE: NEW MAILING LIST **********
                ------------------------------------------
                                 on

                        S I M U L A T I O N


GENERAL:

There has not been a news group on the topic of simulation, so I have
decided to start one. Actually, it is a mailing list and if it grows
into a popular forum then we can formally apply to have it made a
news "group" (which apparently requires votes,etc.).

TOPICS:

All topics connected with simulation are welcome (no flaming please!).
Some sample topics are listed:

 real time simulation methods
 flight simulation
 parallel architectures for simulation analysis and modeling
 simulation and training
 distributed simulation
 artificial intelligence and simulation
 automatic generation and analysis of models
 analog vs. digital methods, hybrids
 continuous, discrete, and combined methods
 qualitative modeling
 application specific questions
 theory of simulation and systems
 queries and comments about available simulation software
 announcements of simulation-related talks and seminars
 graphics and image processing in simulation

HOW TO JOIN:

To participate in the mailing list you need to know two net addresses:

   simulation@fish.cis.ufl.edu         - for sending topical mail messages
   simulation-request@fish.cis.ufl.edu - for subscribing/unsubscribing
                                         to the list (administration)

METHOD:

At first, we will operate on an automatic mode (unedited list): All
mail sent to 'simulation' will be forwarded automatically to everyone
else on the list. My SUN is strictly acting as a mail handler. As
interesting topics come up and more people chip in, then I will try
my hand at moderating the list to form a digest which will be shipped
periodically. I'm sure that most net readers subscribe to both kinds
of these mailing lists already. So let's go!

Paul Fishwick
University of Florida

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 87 15:22:40 EST
From: amcad!billb@husc6.harvard.edu
Subject: New Issue of DAEDALUS on AI

In response to numerous queries re. forthcoming issue of DAEDALUS on AI,
we would like to provide Table of Contents for this 320-page volume and
information on how to get a copy.

Contents include essays by the following:

        Seymour Papert - "One AI or Many?"
        Hubert L. Dreyfus & Stuart E. Dreyfus - "Making a Mind Versus Modeling
                a Brain: AI Back at a Branchpoint"
        Robert Sokolowski - "Natural and Artificial Intelligence"
        Pamela McCorduck - "Artificial Intelligence: An Apercu"
        Jack D. Cowan & David H. Sharp - "Neural Nets and AI"
        Jacob T. Schwartz - "The New Connectionism: Developing Relationships
                Between Neuroscience and AI"
        George N. Reeke Jr. & Gerald M. Edelman - "Real Brains and AI"
        W. Daniel Hillis - "Intelligence as an Emergent Behavior; or,
                The Songs of Eden"
        David L. Waltz - "The Prospects for Building Truly Intelligent
                Machines"
        Anya Hurlbert & Tomasio Poggio - "Making Machines (and AI) See"
        Sherry Turkle - "AI and Psychoanalysis: A New Alliance"
        Hilary Putnam - "Much Ado About Not Very Much"
        Daniel C. Dennett - "When Philosophers Encounter AI"
        John McCarthy - "Mathematical Logic and AI"

Copies of this volume of DAEDALUS are available @ $5 each ($1 additional for
surface mail delivery outside the U.S.) by writing to:

        DAEDALUS Business Office
        P.O. Box 515
        Canton, MA. 02021  U.S.A.

Email orders can be sent, along with credit card billing number to:

        daedalus%amcad.uucp@husc6.harvard.edu

        or

        harvard!husc6!amcad!daedalus

Holiday greetings,
Guild Nichols
DAEDALUS

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Date: 15 Dec 87 03:06:02 GMT
From: marque!gryphon!sarima@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Stan Friesen)
Subject: Re: the role of biological models in ai

In article <23@gollum.Columbia.NCR.COM> rolandi@gollum.UUCP () writes:
>
>   According to some AI theorists, (see Schank,
>R.C., (1984) The Cognitive Computer. Reading, Mass.: Addison-Wesley)
>AI is "an investigation into human understanding through which we learn
>...about the complexities of our own intelligence."  Thus, at least for
>some AI researchers, the automation of intelligent behavior is secondary
>to the expansion and formalization of our self-understanding.  This is
>assumed to be the result of creating computational "accounts" of (typically
>intellectual) behavior.  Researchers write programs which display the
>performance characteristics of humans within some given domain.  The
>efficacy of a program is a function of the similarity of its performance
>to the human performance after which it was modeled.  Thus AI programs are
>(often) created in order to "explain" the processes that they model.
>
My problem with this class of AI research is that I question it
validity/usefulness. Why should there be only *one* algorithm for a
particular 'behavior'? What evidence do we have that the algorithms that
we are writing into our programs are in fact related in any way th the
ones used by the human brain? Mere parallel behavior is NOT sufficient
evidence to claim increased understanding of a human behavior, some
evidence from neurology and psychology is necessary to at least
demonstrate applicibility. In particular, I find most current AI
algorithms to be far too analytical to be realistic models of human,
or even animal, cognition.

------------------------------

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********************

>From LAWS@KL.SRI.COM Sat Dec 19 05:24:26 1987
Date: Fri 18 Dec 1987 23:55-PST
From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws <AIList-REQUEST@SRI.COM>
Reply-To: AIList@SRI.COM
Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA  94025
Phone: (415) 859-6467
Subject: AIList V5 #286 - Seminars, Conferences
To: AIList@SRI.COM
Status: R


AIList Digest           Saturday, 19 Dec 1987     Volume 5 : Issue 286

Today's Topics:
  Seminars - Practical Reasoning and Unstructured Work (BBN) &
    Distributing Deductions to Multiple Processors (SRI) &
    Matrix Proof Methods for First Order Logics (SRI),
  Conferences - Request for AAAI-88 Workshop Proposals &
    AAAAIC88 Aerospace Applications of AI &
    Computers and Law &
    3rd CAD/CAM Robotics and Factories of the Future

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed 9 Dec 87 08:33:12-EST
From: Dori Wells <DWELLS@G.BBN.COM>
Subject: Seminar - Practical Reasoning and Unstructured Work (BBN)

                      BBN Science Development Program
                       Language And Cognition Seminar

                ISSUES IN THE STUDY OF PRACTICAL REASONING:
                      DESIGNING COMPUTER SUPPORT FOR
                           "UNSTRUCTURED WORK"

                             Constance Perin
                        Sloan School of Management


                           BBN Laboratories Inc.
                            10 Moulton Street
                      Large Conference Room, 2nd Floor

                   10:00 a.m., Wednesday, December 9, 1987


Abstract:  To develop computer applications that are relevant to
nonroutine, relatively unstructured work processes requires
descriptions of them in terms of the rational, irrational, and
nonrational thought they employ. Deriving structures from the
particularities of these tasks and from the relationships among tasks
is one representational problem which needs to be addressed in
designing computer support for such tasks.  Another is how to
acknowledge the influence of contexts on tasks.  A third problem is
how to decrease the probability of miscommunication and increase that
of shared interpretations in complex organizations.  The perspectives
of discourse analysis, semantic analysis, and figurative language
analysis seem to be appropriate to this set of questions.  In this
talk, I will discuss how these types of observation and analysis might
be employed in designing research methods appropriate to knowledge
acquisition for tasks in unstructured work domains.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 87 15:38:13 PST
From: Amy Lansky <lansky@venice.ai.sri.com>
Subject: Seminar - Distributing Deductions to Multiple Processors
         (SRI)


      DISTRIBUTING BACKWARD-CHAINING DEDUCTIONS TO MULTIPLE PROCESSORS

                         Vineet Singh (VSINGH@SPAR-20.ARPA)
                    Schlumberger Palo Alto Research

                   11:00 AM, MONDAY, December 14
              SRI International, Building E, Room EJ228


This talk presents a parallel execution model called PM for
backward-chaining deduction with horn clauses.  The target class of
multiprocessors for this work has the following properties: (1) there
are a finite number of MIMD processors; (2) each processor has a
finite amount of local memory; (3) there is no global memory; (4)
processors can communicate only by sending messages to each other; (5)
message delay is a function of the amount of data in the message and
the distance between source and destination; (6) each processor can
perform backward-chaining deductions based on the subset of the
program that it contains.  For this multiprocessor class, PM can
exploit the most parallelism among existing execution models that use
data-driven control.  In particular, PM can exploit or-parallelism,
and-parallelism, and pipelining.

One problem area that PM addresses is the design of a resource
allocator to map the parallel processes to hardware resources for
processing, storage, and communication.  The allocation strategy
proposed is for use at compile-time (as opposed to run-time) and is
application-independent and multiprocessor-independent.  This strategy
works subject to two restrictions.  First, the type of
backward-chaining deduction is restricted.  In particular, no
recursive clauses are allowed, unit clauses must be ground, and
certain probabilistic uniformity and independence assumptions must
apply.  Second, a partitioning of the database is assumed to be given.

The allocator consists of an initial allocation phase followed by a
local minimization phase.  In the initial allocation phase, database
partitions are allocated to processors one at a time using a greedy
algorithm.  The local minimization phase consists of a sequence of
cost-reducing reallocations of partitions to neighboring processors.
Considerable speedups are obtained by using this allocation strategy.
These speedups compare favorably with an unreachable upper bound and
speedups obtained using random allocations.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 13:09:25 PST
From: Amy Lansky <lansky@venice.ai.sri.com>
Subject: Seminar - Matrix Proof Methods for First Order Logics (SRI)

              MATRIX PROOF METHODS FOR FIRST ORDER LOGICS

                       Lincoln A. Wallen (LW@SALLY.UTEXAS.EDU)
          Dept. of Computer Sciences, Univ. of Texas at Austin

                   11:00 AM, MONDAY, December 21
              SRI International, Building E, Room EJ228


We present matrix-based proof methods for classical, modal, and
intuitionistic first order logics.  The methods are designed to
facilitate automated proof search and, as such, represent a
comprehensive extension of resolution-style techniques to modal and
intuitionistic logics.  We emphasise how the matrix methods arise from
an analysis of the structure of Gentzen sequent calculi.  This
suggests a general method for obtaining efficient proof systems for
other logics of interest to Computing Science and Artificial
Intelligence.

VISITORS:  Please arrive 5 minutes early so that you can be escorted up
from the E-building receptionist's desk.  Thanks!

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 18 Dec 87 08:46:53 EST
From: Joseph L. Katz. <katz@mitre-bedford.ARPA>
Subject: Conference - Request for AAAI-88 Workshop Proposals


                            AAAI-88 Workshops:
                           Request for Proposals


The AAAI-88 Program Committee invites proposals for the Workshop Program of
the Seventh National Conference on Artificial Intelligence (AAAI-88), to be
held at Saint Paul, Minn. from August 21, 1988 to August 26, 1988.  Gathering
in an informal setting, workshop participants will have the opportunity to
meet and discuss issues with a selected focus---providing for active exchange
among researchers and practioners on topics of mutual interest.  Members from
all segments of the AI community are encouraged to submit workshop proposals
for review.

To encourage interaction and a broad exchange of ideas, the workshops will be
kept small---preferably under 35 participants.  Attendance should be limited
to active participants only.  The format of workshop presentations will be
determined by the organizers of the workshop, but ample time must be allotted
for general discussion.  Workshops can range in length from two hours to two
days, but most workshops will last a half day or a full day.

Proposals for workshops should be between 1 and 2 pages in length, and
should contain:
1/ a brief description the workshop identifying specific issues that will be
   focused on.
2/ a discussion of why the workshop would be of interest at this time,
3/ the names and addresses of the organizing committee, preferably 3 or 4
   people not all at the same site,
4/ a list of several potential participants, and
5/ a proposed schedule.

Workshop proposals should be submitted as soon as possible, but no later
than 1 February 1988.  Proposals will be reviewed as they are received and
resources allocated as workshops are approved. Organizers will be notified
of the committee's decision no later than 15 February 1988.

Workshop organizers will be responsible for:
1/ producing a Call for Participation in the workshop, which will be mailed
   to AAAI members by AAAI,
2/ reviewing requests to participate in the workshop, and determining the
   workshop participants,
3/ scheduling the activities of the workshop, and
4/ preparing a review of the workshop, which will be printed in the AI
   Magazine.

AAAI will provide logistical support, will provide a meeting place for
the workshop, and, in conjunction with the organizers, will determine the
date and time of the workshop.

Please submit your workshop proposals, and enquiries concerning workshops,
to:


       Joseph Katz
       MITRE Corporation
       MS L203
       Burlington Road
       Bedford, MA 01730
       (617) 271 5200
or
   Katz@Mitre-Bedford.ARPA

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Date: 7 Dec 87 10:01:00 EDT
From: "ETD2::WILSONJ" <wilsonj%etd2.decnet@afwal-aaa.arpa>
Reply-to: "ETD2::WILSONJ" <wilsonj%etd2.decnet@afwal-aaa.arpa>
Subject: Conference - AAAAIC88 Aerospace Applications of AI


                           AAAIC88 CALL FOR PAPERS

     AEROSPACE APPLICATIONS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CONFERENCE 1988

                With Neural Networks Aerospace Applications
                          Special Interest Sessions
              Stouffer's Hotel, Dayton, OH, October 25-27, 1988

Particulars - Tutorials will be held on 24 Oct 88.  Workshops will be held on
28 Oct 88.  There will be exhibits by AI companies and related industries as
well as product familiarization sessions.  There will be up to 18 technical
sessions in 5 half-day periods, luncheon speakers and a banquet.

The 4th Aerospace Applications of Artificial Intelligence Conference will
investigate a wide range of topics with heavy emphasis this year on neural
network applications in aerospace.  Topic areas for which timely, original,
technical papers are solicited include:

Integrating Neural Networks and        Knowledge Processing with Neural Nets
   Expert Systems                     Robotics
Neural Networks and Signal Processing Data Fusion/Sensor Fusion
Machine Learning, Cognition & the      Combinatorial Optimization for
   Cockpit                                Scheduling and Resource Control
Machine Vision & Avionics Applications Natural Language Recognition and
Neural Networks and Man-Machine           Synthesis
   Interface Issues                    Self-Organization in Avionics
 Neural Network Development Tools       Applied Adaptive-Resonance
Applied Biological Models              Cooperative and Competitive Network
Parallel Processing & Neural Networks     Dynamics in Aerospace
Automatic Target Recognition           Learning Theory and Techniques
Back Propagation with  Momentum,       Simulation and Implementation of
   Shared Weights or Recurrent            Neural Networks
Network Architectures                  Technology - Microchips, Optics, etc.
 Expert System Development Tools        Applications of Expert Systems in
Aerospace Scheduling                     Manufacturing
Operational and Maintenance Issues     Design Automation
   Using Expert Systems                Data Management
Real Time Expert Systems               Acquisition Management
Knowledge Base Simulation              Verification and Validation of ES
Advanced Problem Solving Techniques    Diagnostics and Fault Isolation

ABSTRACT DEADLINE :  26 Feb 88

Authors are invited to submit abstracts of 500 words in any of the above topic
areas.  Please avoid acronyms or abbreviations in the title of the paper.  A
short biographical sketch of the author(s) to include citizenship, mailing
address and telephone number must be included with the abstract.  Final
manuscripts for papers are due 19 Aug 88.

                       James R. Johnson
   Send abstracts to:  AFWAL/AAOR
                       WPAFB, OH 45433

Sponsored by Dayton SIGART and the Association of Computing Machinery.

------------------------------

Date: Fri 18 Dec 87 19:34:50-PST
From: ELIOT@ECLA.USC.EDU
Subject: Conference - Computers and Law


CONFERENCE NOTICE

International Conference on Computers and Law

Dates: February 8-10, 1988
Location: The Miramar Sheraton Hotel, Santa Monica, Ca.

Purpose:

This Conference will bring together legal experts, computer
users, computer product developers, buyers/sellers of computers,
and related interested parties in order to explore common legal
and business problems related to all areas of computing.

Topics:

Emerging Technologies such as Artificial Intelligence and Expert
Systems, Protection and Litigation of Intellectual Property
Rights, Independent Contractor Relationships, Information Systems
Crimes, Malpractice Potential and Prevention, Computers and
Criminal Justice, and additonal topics.

Sponsors:

IFIP Technical Committee on Computers and Society, Law and
Technology Section of the Los Angeles County Bar Association,
Computer Law Section of the San Francisco Bar Association, High
Technology Exchange Inc., Irell & Manella Attorneys at Law,
Laventhol & Horwath Management Consultants, Pactific Bell, and
Peter Norton Computing Inc.

Conference Fees:

Cost is $395.00 until January 8, 1988, and $495.00 thereafter.
Send registration fee made out to "ICCL88" either by check or
money order to Michael Krieger (address below). Attendees are
responsible for obtaining their own hotel reservations, contact
the Miramar Sheraton Hotel at (213) 394-3731, mention the
Conference rates of $110/night for single and $125/night for a
double.

Additional Information:

For additional information and a Conference brochure, contact the
Conference Chair:

  Michael M. Krieger
  c/o ICCL88
  P.O. Box 24619
  Los Angeles, Ca.  90024.

  Krieger may be reached by phone at (213) 208-2461.


Electronic Mail:

As a courtesy to the Conference, Dr. Eliot of the University of
Southern California has agreed to assist interested attendees via
electronic mail at ELIOT@ECLA.USC.EDU on the Arpanet.  He can
help answer limited questions about the Conference.

------------------------------

Date: 16 Dec 87 18:14:18 GMT
From: siemens!liu@princeton.edu  (Peiya Liu)
Subject: Conference - 3rd CAD/CAM Robotics and Factories of the Future

                       Call for Papers

        Third International Conference on CAD/CAM Automation
                Robotics and Factories of the Future
                 Southfield Hilton, Southfield, MI
                      August 14-17, 1988

The main objective of this conference is to bring together researchers
and practitioners from government, industries, and academia interested
in the multidisciplinary and interorganizational productivity aspects
of advanced manufacturing systems utilizing CAD/CAM, CAE, CIM, Parametric
Technology, AI, Robotics, Factory of Future, AGV technology, etc.,
and to address productivity enhancement issues of other hybrid automated
systems that combine machine skills and human intelligence in  areas
of application both manufacturing (aerospace, automotive, civil,
 electrical, mechanical, industrial, computer, chemical, etc.) and
 non-manufacturing (such as forestry, mining, service and leisure,
 process industry, medicine and rehabilitation).


Papers are invited for the section on AI in Manufacturing and Robotics
of The Third International Conference on CAD/CAM Automation, Robotics and
Factories of the Future(CAR & FOF). Topics of interest include, but are
 not limited to, the following artificial intellgience areas:
Manufacturing Workcell Diagnosis, Process Planning, Robot Motion Planning,
Scheduling, Knowledge Representation of Workcells, Sensor-based Programming,
 Vision, and Object Representation.

Deadline: Three copies of an extended abstract should be sent to the section
organizer at the address given below. Each copy of the extended
 abstract should contain the title of the paper, full name(s) and
addresses of all authors, objectives, methods and significance of
the reported results. The closing date for receipt of abstracts is
 February 1, 1988. Authors  will be  notified of acceptance by
March 15, 1988. Camera-ready manuscript will be due by April 15, 1988.

The section organizer: Dr. Peiya Liu, Siemens Research and Technology Labs,
105 College Road East, Princeton, NJ 08540. Csnet: liu@siemens.com,
 Tel:(609)734-3349. The conference general chairman: Dr. Biren Prasad,
 Electronic Data Systems,  EDS Pinehurst #201, 1400 North Woodward Ave,
Bloomfield Hills, Michigan 48013, USA. General information inquires may be
directed to (313)645-4714.


Publication: Manuscripts of full length papers accepted and presented
at the conference will be reviewed and published in the Conference Proceedings
 by Springer-Verlag, Berlin.  Selected papers could be reviewed and published
 in one of the relevant journals: Journal of Intelligent Systems and Machines
(IMPACT); International Journal of Vehicle Design: Int. Journal of
Technology Management: Int. Journal of Materials and Product Technology;
Advances in Engineering Software; Engineering Analysis; Microsoftware
for Engineers; Int. Journal of Robotics and Computer Integrated Manufacturing;
and Int. Journal of Computer Applications in Technology.

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End of AIList Digest
********************

>From LAWS@KL.SRI.COM Sat Dec 19 07:24:53 1987
Date: Sat 19 Dec 1987 00:04-PST
From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws <AIList-REQUEST@SRI.COM>
Reply-To: AIList@SRI.COM
Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA  94025
Phone: (415) 859-6467
Subject: AIList V5 #287 - Conferences
To: AIList@SRI.COM
Status: R


AIList Digest           Saturday, 19 Dec 1987     Volume 5 : Issue 287

Today's Topics:
  Conferences - ICEBOL3 Symbolic and Logical Computing &
    Principles of Knowledge Representation and Reasoning &
    ICSC'88 AI: Theory and Applications &
    Visual Form and Motion Perception

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 08 Dec 87 09:23:45 -0800
From: Richard Nelson <nelson@Q2.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Subject: Conference - ICEBOL3 Symbolic and Logical Computing

Here's an announcement for a conference with a twist:  it includes
symbolic languages such as Icon and SNOBOL4.

cheers
Richard

------- Forwarded Message

Date: 7 Dec 87   12:03 CDT
From: ERIC%SDNET.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
To: NELSON@Q2.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: BITNET mail follows


                           ICEBOL3

April 21-22, 1988                      Dakota State College
                                        Madison, SD 57042

     ICEBOL3, the International Conference on Symbolic and
Logical Computing, is designed for teachers, scholars, and
programmers who want to meet to exchange ideas about
non-numeric computing.  In addition to a focus on SNOBOL,
SPITBOL, and Icon, ICEBOL3 will feature introductory and
technical presentations on other dangerously powerful
computer languages such as Prolog and LISP, as well as on
applications of BASIC, Pascal, and FORTRAN for processing
strings of characters.  Topics of discussion will include
artificial intelligence, expert systems, desk-top
publishing, and a wide range of analyses of texts in English
and other natural languages.  Parallel tracks of concurrent
sessions are planned: some for experienced computer users
and others for interested novices.  Both mainframe and
microcomputer applications will be discussed.

     ICEBOL's coffee breaks, social hours, lunches, and
banquet will provide a series of opportunities for
participants to meet and informally exchange information.
Sessions will be scheduled for "birds of a feather" to
discuss common interests (for example, BASIC users group,
implementations of SNOBOL, computer generated poetry).


Call For Papers

     Abstracts (minimum of 250 words) or full texts of
papers to be read at ICEBOL3 are invited on any application
of non-numeric programming.  Planned sessions include the
following:
   artificial intelligence
   expert systems
   natural language processing
   analysis of literary texts (including bibliography,
      concordance, and index preparation)
   linguistic and lexical analysis (including parsing and
      machine translation)
   preparation of text for electronic publishing
   computer assisted instruction
   grammar and style checkers
   music analysis.

     Papers must be in English and should not exceed twenty
minutes reading time.  Abstracts and papers should be
received by January 15, 1988.  Notification of acceptance
will follow promptly.  Papers will be published in ICEBOL3
Proceedings.

     Presentations at previous ICEBOL conferences were made
by Susan Hockey (Oxford), Ralph Griswold (Arizona), James
Gimpel (Lehigh), Mark Emmer (Catspaw, Inc.), Robert Dewar
(New York University), and many others.  Copies of ICEBOL 86
Proceedings are available.


                   ICEBOL3 is sponsored by

                The Division of Liberal Arts

                             and

            The Business and Education Institute

                             of

                    DAKOTA STATE COLLEGE
                    Madison, South Dakota


For Further Information

     All correspondence including abstracts and papers as
well as requests for registration materials should be sent
to:

                        Eric Johnson
                       ICEBOL Director
                       114 Beadle Hall
                    Dakota State College
                  Madison, SD 57042 U.S.A.
                       (605) 256-5270

     Inquiries, abstracts, and correspondence may also be
sent via electronic mail to:

                   ERIC @ SDNET  (BITNET)


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec  14:29:20 1987
From: rjb%research.att.com@RELAY.CS.NET
Subject: Conference - Principles of Knowledge Representation and
         Reasoning


                                 CALL FOR PAPERS

                       FIRST INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON
              PRINCIPLES OF KNOWLEDGE REPRESENTATION AND REASONING

                                Royal York Hotel
                            Toronto, Ontario, CANADA
                                May 15-18, 1989

 Sponsored by the Canadian Society for Computational Studies of Intelligence,
   with support from AAAI, IJCAI, the Canadian Institute for Advanced
        Research, and the Information Technology Research Centre of Ontario,
   in cooperation with AISB and ACM SIGART (pending approval)


The idea of explicit representations of knowledge, manipulated by
general-purpose inference algorithms, underlies much of the work in
artificial intelligence, from natural language to expert systems.  A growing
number of researchers are interested in the principles governing systems
based on this idea.  This conference will bring together these researchers in
a more intimate setting than that of the general AI conferences.  In
particular, all authors will be expected to appear and give presentations of
adequate length to present substantial results.  Accepted papers will be
collected in a conference proceedings, to be published by Morgan Kaufmann
Publishers, Inc.

The conference will focus on principles of commonsense reasoning and
representation, as distinct from concerns of engineering and details of
implementation.  Thus of direct interest are logical specifications of
reasoning behaviors, comparative analyses of competing algorithms and
theories, and analyses of the correctness and/or the computational complexity
of reasoning algorithms.  Papers that attempt to move away from or refute the
knowledge-based paradigm in a principled way are also welcome, so long as
appropriate connections are made to the central body of work in the field.


Submissions are encouraged in at least the following topic areas:


Analogical Reasoning            Qualitative Reasoning
Commonsense Reasoning           Temporal Reasoning
Deductive Reasoning             Planning
Diagnostic and                  Knowledge Representation Formalisms
     Abductive Reasoning        Theories of the Commonsense World
Evidential Reasoning            Theories of Knowledge and Belief
Inductive Reasoning             Belief Management and Revision
Nonmonotonic Reasoning          Formal Task and Domain Specifications





                             REVIEW OF PAPERS


The Program Committee will review extended abstracts (not complete papers).
Each submission will be read by at least two members of the Committee and
judged on clarity, significance, and originality.  An important criterion for
acceptance of a paper is that it clearly contribute to principles of
representation and reasoning that are likely to influence current and future
AI practice.

Extended abstracts should contain enough information to enable the Program
Committee to identify the principal contribution of the research and its
importance.  It should also be clear from the extended abstract how the work
compares to related work in the field.  References to relevant literature must
be included.

Submitted papers must never have been published.  Submissions must also be
substantively different from papers currently under review and must not be
submitted elsewhere before the author notification date (December 15, 1988).


                        SUBMISSION OF PAPERS

Submitted abstracts must be at most eight (8) double-spaced pages.  All
abstracts must be submitted on 8-1/2" x 11" paper (or alternatively, a4),
and typed in 12-point font (pica on standard typewriter).  Dot matrix
printout is not acceptable.

Each submission should include the names and complete addresses of all
authors.  Also, authors should indicate under the title which of the
topic ares listed above best describes their paper (if none is
appropriate, please give a set of keywords that best describe the
topic of the paper).

Abstracts must be received no later than November 1, 1988, at the address
listed immediately below.  Authors will be notified of the Program Committee's
decision by December 15, 1988.  Final camera-ready copies of the full papers
will be due a short time later, on February 15, 1989.  Final papers will be at
most twelve (12) double-column pages in the conference proceedings.


Send five (5) copies of extended abstracts [one copy is acceptable from
countries where access to copiers is limited] to

        Ron Brachman and Hector Levesque, Program Co-chairs
        First International Conference on Principles of
                Knowledge Representation and Reasoning
        c/o AT&T Bell Laboratories
        600 Mountain Avenue, Room 3C-439
        Murray Hill, NJ 07974
        USA



Inquiries of a general nature can be addressed to the Conference Chair:

        Raymond Reiter, Conference Chair
        First International Conference on Principles of
                Knowledge Representation and Reasoning
        c/o Department of Computer Science
        University of Toronto
        10 Kings College Road
        Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A4
        CANADA

        electronic mail: reiter@ai.toronto.edu




IMPORTANT DATES

Submission deadline:            November 1, 1988
Author notification date:       December 15, 1988
Camera-ready copy due
  to publisher:                 February 15, 1989
Conference:                     May 15-18, 1989







PROGRAM COMMITTEE

James Allen (University of Rochester)
Giuseppe Attardi (Delphi SpA, Italy)
Woody Bledsoe (MCC/University of Texas)
Alan Bundy (Edinburgh University)
Eugene Charniak (Brown University)
Veronica Dahl (Simon Fraser University)
Koichi Furukawa (ICOT)
Johan de Kleer (Xerox PARC)
Herve Gallaire (European Computer Industry Research Center, Munich)
Michael Genesereth (Stanford University)
Michael Georgeff (SRI International)
Pat Hayes (Xerox PARC)
Geoff Hinton (University of Toronto)
Bob Kowalski (Imperial College)
Vladimir Lifschitz (Stanford University)
Alan Mackworth (University of British Columbia)
Drew McDermott (Yale University)
Tom Mitchell (Carnegie-Mellon University)
Robert Moore (SRI International)
Judea Pearl (UCLA)
Stan Rosenschein (SRI International)
Stuart Shapiro (SUNY at Buffalo)
Yoav Shoham (Stanford University)
William Woods (Applied Expert Systems)

------------------------------

Date: 10 Dec 87 23:23:35 GMT
From: munnari!mulga.oz.au!isaac@uunet.UU.NET (Isaac Balbin)
Subject: Conference - ICSC'88 AI: Theory and Applications


                                Call for Papers

                 International Computer Science Conference '88

                        Hong Kong, December 19-21, 1988

                Artificial Intelligence: Theory and Applications

                                  Sponsored by

              THE COMPUTER SOCIETY OF THE IEEE, HONG KONG CHAPTER

International Computer Science Conference '88 is to be the first international
conference in Hong Kong devoted to computer science. The purpose of the
conference is to bring together people from academia and industry of the East
and of the West, who are interested in problems related to computer science.
The main focus of this conference will be on the Theory and Applications of
Artificial Intelligence. Our expectation is that this conference will provide a
forum for the sharing of research advances and practical experiences among
those working in computer science.

Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:

     AI Architectures       Expert Systems        Knowledge Engineering
     Logic Programming      Machine Learning      Natural Languages
     Neural Networks        Pattern Recognition   Robotics
     CAD/CAM                Chinese Computing     Distributed Systems
     Information Systems    Office Automation     Software Engineering

Paper Submissions

Submit four copies of the paper by June 15, 1988 to either of the Program
Co-Chairmen:

     Dr. Jean-Louis Lassez                 Dr. Francis Y.L. Chin
     Room H1-A12                           Centre of Computer Studies and
     IBM Thomas J. Watson             Applications
Research Center                            University of Hong Kong
     P.O. Box 218                          Pokfulam Road
     Yorktown Heights NY                   Hong Kong
10598                                      (For papers from Pan-Pacific region
     U.S.A.                           only)
     e-mail: JLL@ibm.com                   e-mail: hkucs!chin@uunet.uu.net

The first page of the paper should contain the author's name, affiliation,
address, electronic address if available, phone number, 100 word abstract, and
key words or phrases. Papers should be no longer than 5000 words (about 20
double-spaced pages). A submission letter that contains a commitment to present
the paper at the conference if accepted should accompany the paper.

Tutorials

The day after the conference will be devoted to tutorials. Proposals for
tutorials on Artificial Intelligence topics, especially advanced topics, are
welcome. Send proposals by June 15, 1988 to the Program Co-Chairmen.

Conference Timetable and Information

     Papers due: June 15, 1988
     Tutorial proposals due: June 15, 1988
     Acceptance letters sent: September 1, 1988
     Camera-ready copy due: October 1, 1988

International Program Committee:

   J-P Adam (Paris             T.Y. Chen (Melbourne &      W.F. Clocksin
Scientific Center)          HKU)                        (Cambridge)
   A. Despain (Berkeley)       J. Gallier                  Qingshi Gao
   M. Georgeff (SRI)        (Pennsylvania)              (Academia Sinica)
   R.C.T. Lee (National        D. Hanson (Princeton)       R. Hasegawa (ICOT)
Tsin Hua)                      M. Maher (IBM)              Z. Manna (Stanford &
   F. Mizoguchi (Science       U. Montanari (Pisa)      Weizmann)
U. of Tokyo)                   P.C. Poole (Melbourne)      K. Mukai (ICOT)
   H.N. Phien (AIT)            C.K. Yuen (Singapore)       D.S.L. Tung (CUHK)

Organizing Committee        Local Arrangements          Publicity Chairman:
Chairman:                   Chairman:
                                                           Mr. Wanbil Lee
   Dr. K.W. Ng                 Dr. K.P. Chow               Department of
   Department of Computer      Centre of Computer          Computer Studies
Science                     Studies and Applications       City Polytechnic of
   The Chinese University      University of Hong Kong  Hong Kong
of Hong Kong                   Pokfulam Road               Argyle Center
   Shatin, N.T.                Hong Kong                   Kowloon, Hong Kong
   Hong Kong                   e-mail:
                            hkucs!icsc@uunet.uu.net

In Cooperation With:

     Center for Computing Studies and Services, Hong Kong Baptist College
     Centre of Computer Studies and Applications, University of Hong Kong
     Department of Computer Science, The Chinese University of Hong Kong
     Department of Computer Studies, City Polytechnic of Hong Kong
     Department of Computing Studies, Hong Kong Polytechnic

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 7 Dec 87 09:59:52 EST
From: ennio@bucasb.bu.edu (Ennio Mingolla)
Subject: Conference - Visual Form and Motion Perception

**************************************************************************
        *****  UPDATED Meeting Announcement:     (Please Post)    *****

              VISUAL FORM AND MOTION PERCEPTION:
        PSYCHOPHYSICS, COMPUTATION, AND NEURAL NETWORKS

           Friday and Saturday, March 4 and 5, 1988
  Conference Auditorium, George Sherman Union, Boston University
        775 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, Massachusetts

     This meeting has been dedicated to the memory of the late
     KVETOSLAV PRAZDNY, who was to have been a speaker, and
     whose tragic death has deprived the field of visual
     perception of one of its most talented investigators.

Confirmed speakers and tentative titles are:
S. ANSTIS, York University. (To be announced)
L. AREND, Eye Research Institute. Lightness and color in complex scenes
I. BIEDERMAN, University of Minnesota. Invariant primitives for visual
image understanding
P. CAVANAGH, University of Montreal. Motion: The long and the short of it
J. DAUGMAN, Harvard University. Image segmentation by networks for signal
orthogonalization
S. GROSSBERG, Boston University. Filling in the forms: Monocular and binocular
constraints on surface lightness perception
J. LAPPIN, Vanderbilt University. The optical information for perceiving
metric structure from motion
E. MINGOLLA, Boston University. Recent results in emergent visual segmentations
V. RAMACHANDRAN, UCSD. The utilitarian theory of perception: Interactions
between motion, form, color, and texture
A. REEVES, Northeastern University.  Fundamental mechanisms of color vision
W. RICHARDS, MIT. Encoding shape by curvature
R. SAVOY, Rowland Institute. Traditional form and motion stimuli presented to
isolated cone classes
G. SPERLING, New York University. Non-Fourier motion perception
J. TODD, Brandeis University. Perception of smoothly curved surfaces
S. ZUCKER, McGill University. From orientation selection to optical flow

This meeting is sponsored by the Boston Consortium for Behavioral and
Neural Studies, a group of researchers supported by the Air Force Office
of Scientific Research Life Sciences Program.  A Howard Johnson's Motor
Lodge is located at 575 Commonwealth Avenue, and a limited number of rooms
at a reduced conference rate can be reserved until February 10, 1988 by
those attending the meeting.  Total conference registration will be
limited by available meeting space, so early registration is advised.

Registration and hotel accomodations for the meeting are being
handled by:

   UNIGLOBE--Vision Meeting                Telephone:
   40 Washington Street                    (800) 521-5144
   Wellesley Hills, MA   02181             (617) 235-7500

A meeting registration and hotel reservation form is attached to this
announcement.  For further information about travel or accomodation
arrangements, contact UNIGLOBE at the above address or telephone numbers.

  [Contact the sender if you need the registration form. -- KIL]

------------------------------

End of AIList Digest
********************

>From LAWS@KL.SRI.COM Wed Dec 30 12:09:33 1987
Date: Tue 29 Dec 1987 23:31-PST
From: AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws <AIList-REQUEST@SRI.COM>
Reply-To: AIList@SRI.COM
Us-Mail: SRI Int., 333 Ravenswood Ave., Menlo Park, CA  94025
Phone: (415) 859-6467
Subject: AIList V5 #288 - Dictionaries, STRIPS, Simulation, Law
To: AIList@SRI.COM
Status: RO


AIList Digest           Wednesday, 30 Dec 1987    Volume 5 : Issue 288

Today's Topics:
  Queries - Symbolics Bitmaps & ELIZA & ALVIN & Survey Announcement &
    Text-to-Voice Convertor & PD Expert System,
  Linguistics - Online Dictionary,
  Planning - STRIPS References,
  Simulation - List Address Change,
  Law - Can You Sue an Expert System?,
  Philosophy - The Role of Biological Models in AI

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 18 Dec  12:50:21 1987
From: prem%research.att.com@RELAY.CS.NET
Subject: Symbolics Bitmap question.


Does someone have a Zetalisp package that will take a symbolics
bitmap and dump it (Postscript format) into a unix file ?


thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 20 Dec 87 22:52:41 GMT
From: Wolf-Dieter Batz <L12%DHDURZ1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: ELIZA ???

Hello ppl on AIlist,
  I'm in need of help from some of you cracks who have a broader perspective
than me, 'cause I did not read this list for several months now. Question:
Is there any form of some intelligent interviewing software out on the net?
We would apprecciate any source in any language you like. Best would be some
Prog combining the features from ELIZA and STORYTELLER. Please send it to my
address directly, 'cause I do not read this list (no time, believe me...)!
If there's any substantial response, I will post it as a large package to
the list next spring, ok?
                               thanxalot *** Wodibatz (L12@DHDURZ1.bitnet)

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Date: 20 Dec 87 15:17:02 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!Barry_A_Stevens@uunet.uu.net
Subject: trying to find ALVIN

I'm trying to find the author of ALVIN, a neural-net based system that
can be "taught" areas of knowledge. The author was originally distributing
through the UCLA PC users group. I would like to either find the author, and/or
get a copy of ALVIN. Can anyone help?



Reply by email or to
Barry Stevens
Applied AI Systems
PO Box 2747
Del Mar, CA 92014
619-755-7231
--
Thanks in advance for your help.

------------------------------

Date: Tue 22 Dec 87 11:40:35-PST
From: ELIOT@ECLA.USC.EDU
Subject: Survey Announcement


* NOTICE *

Request for Survey Participation

I am conducting a survey of university faculty doing expert
systems research with a business emphasis, and hope to obtain a
widespread level of participation (note: I am a faculty member
doing this survey as part of my research efforts and in
conjunction with another professor, Benn Konsynski who is
visiting at Harvard this year and is normally with the University
of Arizona).

We are particularly interested in business oriented research
topics, including the application of expert systems to business
domains (e.g., finance, marketing, accounting, and so on) and the
management of expert systems projects.  A questionnaire is
available from me and can be obtained by email or regular mail.

To obtain a questionnaire, send a request to:

  On the arpanet:

     ELIOT@ECLA.USC.EDU

  Via regular mail:

     Dr. Eliot, Director
     Expert Systems Laboratory
     Systems Science Department
     University of Southern California
     P.O. Box 30041
     Long Beach, Ca. 90853-0041

The results of our survey will be summarized and made available
in a brief technical report.  We anticipate making presentations
at selected AI conferences regarding the survey results and have
been in contact with several interested AI journals.

We hope to distribute the survey and obtain the completed forms
back within the month of January.  So send for your survey today!


Dr. Lance B. Eliot
USC

------------------------------

Date: 20 Dec 87 23:50:11 GMT
From: ihnp4!islenet!jds@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (James Steppling)
Subject: Text-to-Voice Convertor

I am in the process of developing an OEM voice menu system requiring a high
quality Text-to-Voice Pheripheral Board for a IBM compatible PC.

I have tested the board recently displayed a COMDEX and fount it to be just
bearly accepatable.

If any one has or is working on or is knows of a good non-computer sounding
digital or synthisized Text-to-Voice processor please let me know.

Thanks
Jim

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Date: 22 Dec 87 17:22:47 GMT
From: grc!don@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Donald D. Woelz)
Subject: PD expert system

I am looking for a simple PD expert system that would be used
to assist a user in configuring a computer system.  I envision
that the system will ask the user simple yes or no questions
about what he wants to have in the system, and then display
the complete configuration when done.

If anyone has such software or knows where I might obtain it,
please send me email with the information.  I am running
System V Release 2 and would prefer something that runs in
that environment.

Thanks.
--
Don Woelz              {ames, rutgers, harvard}!uwvax!uwmcsd1!grc!don
GENROCO, Inc.                              Phone: 414-644-8700
205 Kettle Moraine Drive North             Fax:   414-644-6667
Slinger, WI 53086                          Telex: 6717062

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Date: 25 Dec 87 23:54:40 GMT
From: ucsdhub!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!ncrcae!gollum!rolandi@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu 
      (rolandi)
Subject: online dictionary needed


***************************  WANTED  *******************************

I am trying to locate an online dictionary or any large collection
of English words in electromic form that includes a pronunciation
key.  Not to be picky, but the pronunciation key would ideally
employ regular ascii characters to represent the word's phonetic
qualities.  Does a "shareware" version of such a resource exist?

Thanks in advance...

w.rolandi
u.s.carolina dept. of psychology and linguistics
ncr advanced development

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Date: 27 Dec 87 00:47:18 GMT
From: glacier!jbn@labrea.stanford.edu  (John B. Nagle)
Subject: Re: online dictionary needed


     The entire American Heritage Dictionary, definitions and pronunciation
as well as the words themselves, is available, along with various other
reference works, in CD-ROM format from Microsoft.  See your local Microsoft
dealer for details.

                                        John Nagle

------------------------------

Date: 18 Dec 87 21:20:14 GMT
From: steve@hubcap.clemson.edu ("Steve" Stevenson)
Subject: STRIPS references query answered.


Some time ago I posted a query for the state of the STRIPS model.
Several people took time to reply.  Thanks to you all.  Here's
the references.


Happy Holidays!!!
-------

Wilkins, D., ``Domain-independent Planning:
Representation and Plan Generation",
{\it Artificial Intelligence 22}, April 1984, pp. 269-301.

Wilkins, D., ``Recovering from Execution Errors in SIPE",
{\it Computation Intelligence 1}, February 1985, pp. 33-45.
-------
The PRODIGY system here at CMU is a recent derivative of STRIPS.
Its mostly used as a testbed for machine learning research by
various people (e.g. see my article in IJCAI87),
but the problem solver itself has some
advances that are interesting. We've just about finished a manual
for the system, and will be releasing it for external use within
the next month or two. Let me know if you are interested.
- Steve Minton
-------
A recent paper by David Chapman (AIJ v32 #3 July 87) gives a good
overview of planning research.
-------
McCarty, (mccarty@red.rutgers.edu), suggested by a student at Rutgers.
-------

Steve (really "D. E.") Stevenson           steve@hubcap.clemson.edu
Department of Computer Science,            (803)656-5880.mabell
Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-1906

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Dec 87 11:53:30 EST
From: Paul Fishwick <fishwick@fish.cis.ufl.edu>
Subject: simulation list address change


Ken,
  If you could possible make a change to the addresses in my last
message before posting it would be great! The addresses in that
mail message are:

  simulation@fish.cis.ufl.edu
  simulation-request@fish.cis.ufl.edu

and should be changed to:

  simulation@ufl.edu
  simulation-request@ufl.edu

Thanks a bunch. It turns out that many nameservers have not been changed
so that they can access the 'fish' machine so I decided to operate the
mailing list from our front end mailer machine. Have you had problems
from individuals not being able to get to your 'kl' machine? I suppose
that if everyone's name server had the same "intelligence" then we
wouldn't have a problem.

-paul

------------------------------

Date: 20 Dec 87 15:20:02 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!Barry_A_Stevens@uunet.uu.net
Subject: re: can you sue an expert system?

I have received many replies to my original posting on the legal aspects
of using expert systems. Many were useful, a few thought the scenario
was trivial and, therefore, so was the discussion. I'll be summarizing
the result and posting shortly. Thanks for your help.
--
Barry Stevens

------------------------------

Date: 17 Dec 87 13:42:54 GMT
From: mcvax!inria!imag!bondono@uunet.uu.net  (Philippe Bondono)
Subject: Re: Can you sue an expert system?

In article <1788@cup.portal.com> Barry_A_Stevens@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>Consider, and please comment on, this scenario.
>
>                     * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>A well-respected, well-established expert systems(ES) company constructs
>an expert financial advisory system. The firm employs the top ES
>applications specialists in the country. The system is constructed with
>help from the top domain experts in the financial services industry. It
>is exhaustively tested, including verification of rules, verification of
>reasoning, and further analyses to establish the system's overall value.
>All results are excellent, and the system is offered for sale.

No comment on this point: I am very trustful in expert systems (I must be so,
in fact, since I am working in that field), nevertheless, I think that the two
most important features of expert systems are:
1) their capacity to verify the consistency of their database(s), and
2) the domain they are concerned with.

>By now, you know the outcome. On the Friday morning before Black Monday,
>the expert system tells Joe to "sell everything he has and go into the
>stock market." ESs can usually explain their actions, and Joe asks for
>an explanation. The ES replies "because ... it's only been going UP for
>the past five years and there are NO PROBLEMS IN SIGHT."

The expert system was right: it made a deduction from the knowledge it was fed
on with!
But the real problem is the domain of expertise, more precisely the suitability
of an expert system in a particular field.
It seems to me quite unreasonable to build an expert system for financial
advice, since this field is continuously in evolution. Moreover, for the
particular problem of stock market, it is neither a question of months, nor of
days: it is a question of hours!
Everybody knows that stock market is particularly precarious, since it can
easily go up or down, depending on "abstract" parameters, such as feelings, or
interpretations of official people's declarations (remember the effect of
Reagan's declarations!), or even the fact that one is tense!
This kind of knowledge cannot be modeled, at least till now, in an expert system
database.
This was to say that the problem is not whether or not to start a discussion on
qualities/drawbacks of expert systems, but rather on what kind of field is
suitable for building expert systems.

______________________________________________________________________________
Meryem MARZOUKI
Laboratoire TIM3/IMAG INPG - 46 avenue Felix VIALLET
38031 Grenoble Cedex - FRANCE
e-mail marzouki@archi.uucp
"my tailor is rich, but my english is poor!"
______________________________________________________________________________

------------------------------

Date: 18 Dec 87 12:42:48 GMT
From: mcvax!varol@uunet.uu.net  (Varol Akman)
Subject: Re: Can you sue an expert system?

Meryem Marzouki writes:
>
> ... material deleted
>
>No comment on this point: I am very trustful in expert systems (I must be so,
>in fact, since I am working in that field), nevertheless, I think that the two
>most important features of expert systems are:
>1) their capacity to verify the consistency of their database(s), and
>2) the domain they are concerned with.
>
> ... material deleted
>
>The expert system was right: it made a deduction from the knowledge it was fed
>on with!
>But the real problem is the domain of expertise, more precisely the
>suitability
>of an expert system in a particular field.
>It seems to me quite unreasonable to build an expert system for financial
>advice, since this field is continuously in evolution. Moreover, for the
>particular problem of stock market, it is neither a question of months, nor of
>days: it is a question of hours!
>Everybody knows that stock market is particularly precarious, since it can
>easily go up or down, depending on "abstract" parameters, such as feelings, or
>interpretations of official people's declarations (remember the effect of
>Reagan's declarations!), or even the fact that one is tense!
>This kind of knowledge cannot be modeled, at least till now, in an expert
system
>database.
>This was to say that the problem is not whether or not to start a discussion
on
>qualities/drawbacks of expert systems, but rather on what kind of field is
>suitable for building expert systems.


Expert systems, at this stage of their evolution, are tools for
modeling surface knowledge in an area.  They have no ability
whatsoever to reason about the underlying mechanisms of the domain
that they try to model.  Thus they lack deep knowledge.

Human beings have deep knowledge.  There is also a lot of high quality
work in the area of modeling deep knowledge but this is very much
experimental.  In fact, if we're successful (to an extent) in
modeling deep knowledge, then AI will prove that it is a discipline
which can deal with realistic (read non-toy) problems.

Until then, expert systems will serve as advisors whose advice need
close scrutiny (sp?) by human experts.  I would never try to sue an
expert system because I KNOW that it can't be trusted, given their
level of sophistication at this time.

I can't trust something if it is the subject matter of my field of
research because my field of research is very much in its infancy.
To me that kind of trust is probably the worst thing that I may have.
Programs should be trusted not because we feel a parental warm affinity
towards them.  They should be trusted if they are worth our trust.
The road to that trust is not a path of roses; it is a path full of
hard work, correctness proofs, wide and general field tests, etc.

Until then let's just work and hope that everythings turns out
to be allright at the end.

-Varol Akman
CWI, Amsterdam

------------------------------

Date: 18 Dec 87 01:15:16 GMT
From: tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!msellers@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Mike
      Sellers)
Subject: Re: the role of biological models in ai

>In article <23@gollum.Columbia.NCR.COM> rolandi@gollum.UUCP () writes:
>>
>>   According to some AI theorists, (see Schank,
>>R.C., (1984) The Cognitive Computer. Reading, Mass.: Addison-Wesley)
>>AI is "an investigation into human understanding through which we learn
>>...about the complexities of our own intelligence."  Thus, at least for
>>some AI researchers, the automation of intelligent behavior is secondary
>>to the expansion and formalization of our self-understanding.

>From what I've seen of AI research, this may not be true (in most cases).
I think most AI researchers are not so concerned with self-understanding as
they are with creating a program that interacts with humans in a seemingly
intelligent way.  It makes no difference if the methods or structures used
bear any resemblance to the human way of doing things.  I believe the problem
for most active researchers is one of scale: you cannot possibly hope to
create a program that models human cognitive processing, and you have to get
*something* running, so you set your sights a little lower and brush aside
questions of how well the program corresponds to humans.  This is not meant
to sound demeaning or even cynical, just realistic.

>>This is
>>assumed to be the result of creating computational "accounts" of (typically
>>intellectual) behavior.  Researchers write programs which display the
>>performance characteristics of humans within some given domain.  The
>>efficacy of a program is a function of the similarity of its performance
>>to the human performance after which it was modeled.  Thus AI programs are
>>(often) created in order to "explain" the processes that they model.

The last three statements are, I believe, rarely (if ever, in "classical"
AI research) true.  In the vast majority of cases, we do not even know what
the "performance characteristics of humans" are!  For a task of any real
complexity, modeling a human's performance (when it can be measured) is
still a matter of theory and conjecture rather than programming (see the
scale problem I mentioned above).  For example, even for all their hype
and worth, knowledge-based (expert) systems do not even begin to approximate
the actions of a human expert.  The most advanced projects in this area have
some explanatory capabilities, and some skill at incorporating new or
conflicting facts in their decision making process, but this is just
scratching the surface of how human experts operate.  Lastly, current
AI programs are like the stork-story of human birth as far as explaining
human behavior or cognitive processing goes; they may provide something
that we can learn from later on, but they do not really get us any closer
to knowing what is really going on.

In article <2590@gryphon.CTS.COM>, sarima@gryphon.CTS.COM (Stan Friesen) writes:
>My problem with this class of AI research is that I question it
>validity/usefulness. Why should there be only *one* algorithm for a
>particular 'behavior'? What evidence do we have that the algorithms that
>we are writing into our programs are in fact related in any way th the
>ones used by the human brain? Mere parallel behavior is NOT sufficient
>evidence to claim increased understanding of a human behavior, some
>evidence from neurology and psychology is necessary to at least
>demonstrate applicibility. In particular, I find most current AI
>algorithms to be far too analytical to be realistic models of human,
>or even animal, cognition.

Most AI algorithms have little if any resemblance to how humans function.
How important this fact is depends on who you talk to.  Of those people
doing research in PDP (parallel distributed processing, or artificial
neural networks, or connectionist nets, etc), many are convinced that some
correspondence with the functioning of the human brain is important (possibly
vital).  This is not to say that this way of operating is the "only way".
It is, however, the only way that we know of.  Later, when we have all the
principles behind cognition down pat, we can begin to branch out in different
directions.  Interestingly, many of the people doing this research are
psychologists and neurologists, so there is (hopefully) an increasing amount
of knowledge and techniques from these fields being used in this research.
For the time being, however, the level of cognition we will be seeing arising
from PDP research will be more reminisicent of a flatworm or a sea slug
than a dog or a human (I predict, however, that this is more than we will
see from more "classical" AI methods, which will continue to be more concerned
with outward function than with inward correspondence).

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Mike Sellers
...!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!msellers
Mentor Graphics Corp.
Electronic Packaging and Analysis Division

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